Democrat gubernatorial nominee Deb Haaland offered a revealing response when pressed by KOB 4 about her 2014 flight aboard a private plane arranged through Jeffrey Epstein, repeatedly distancing herself from the decision by emphasizing that it was then-gubernatorial candidate Gary King’s campaign — before telling the station moments later that governors themselves should ultimately be held accountable for what happens under their administration.
The exchange came during an in-depth interview with KOB’s Tessa Mentus, who asked Haaland why voters should view her presence aboard the Epstein-arranged charter as an “unfortunate coincidence” rather than a lapse in judgment by someone serving as King’s running mate.
“Right, so yes, I was a running mate with Gary King,” Haaland nervously responded. “It was Gary King’s campaign, and how would I know that?”
Mentus followed with a straightforward question: Did Haaland ever wonder how the campaign had obtained such a plane?
“No,” Haaland said.
She explained that the campaign had meetings scheduled in Washington, D.C., the following day and said there was not enough time to take a commercial flight.
“He said, we’re just going to hire this plane and fly to Washington, D.C.,” Haaland said.
Haaland then repeatedly stressed her reliance on King.
“I trusted my running mate,” she told Mentus. “It was his campaign. He was running the campaign, and I trusted him, so I don’t know what to say.”
Haaland said she did not learn that her name appeared on the flight manifest until the records became public this year.
“I had no idea,” she said when Mentus asked whether she only recently learned Epstein had played a role in arranging the charter.
The underlying flight has been documented through records released in the Epstein files. New Mexico Political Report reported in February that King, Haaland and campaign staff flew from Santa Fe to the Washington area on Sept. 8, 2014, aboard a private aircraft arranged through an Epstein-connected company. Campaign finance records showed King’s campaign paid $22,060 to charter company InJet. Emails reviewed by the outlet showed that a request had been made to Epstein to help secure transportation for King.
The aircraft was not Epstein’s personal plane, a distinction Haaland’s campaign has repeatedly emphasized. Her campaign has also said she never interacted with Epstein and was not informed of his role in arranging the charter.
KOB turns Haaland’s answer into accountability question
Mentus then pivoted from the 2014 campaign to the job Haaland is now seeking.
“As governor, you have to hire the right people around you and trust that they’re going to make the right decisions,” Mentus said, before asking who should ultimately be held responsible when problems emerge within agencies such as the Children, Youth and Families Department or Public Education Department.
Should voters blame department heads, Mentus asked, or the governor?
Haaland’s answer was immediate.
“No, you hold me accountable,” she said. “I’m the governor.”
The juxtaposition was striking.
Minutes earlier, Haaland had defended her lack of knowledge about the Epstein-linked flight by emphasizing that King was running the campaign and that she trusted him to make decisions.
Yet when asked how that same principle of delegated responsibility should work if she becomes governor, Haaland said responsibility ultimately stops with the person at the top.
Haaland is the Democrat nominee for governor in the Nov. 3 election, facing Republican Gregg Hull in the race to succeed term-limited Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham.
Haaland and King crossed paths again this year
Haaland’s effort to put distance between herself and King also comes after both were present at the Albuquerque Hispano Chamber of Commerce’s “La Noche Encantada” gala on Feb. 21.
When the Piñon Post previously asked Haaland’s campaign about her current relationship with her former running mate, spokeswoman Hannah Menchhoff said Haaland may have seen King at the event but maintained there had been “no ongoing correspondence” between the two. The gala itself took place Feb. 21 at the Albuquerque Convention Center.
The relationship has attracted renewed attention because newly released Epstein records have shown that King’s contacts with Epstein were more extensive than initially portrayed publicly.
Emails reviewed by New Mexico Political Report showed King had personally sought Epstein’s help with fundraising and transportation during the 2014 campaign. Additional records showed Epstein-linked companies contributed money to King’s campaign, even as attorneys working with Epstein discussed using corporate entities to avoid unwanted publicity surrounding the convicted sex offender’s contributions.
Haaland’s campaign has consistently maintained those interactions belonged to King, not Haaland.
There remains no evidence that Haaland personally communicated with Epstein or knew beforehand that he had arranged the September 2014 charter.
But Mentus’ questioning exposed a broader issue that goes beyond whether Haaland personally knew Epstein: how much responsibility a candidate bears for decisions made by the people running an operation on their behalf.
Haaland’s answer regarding 2014 was essentially that she trusted the person in charge.
Her answer about the governor’s office was considerably less ambiguous.
“You hold me accountable,” she said. “I’m the governor.”
WATCH:

Love it!
Haaland: “Don’t look at me, he did it.”
Haaland: ” Hold me accountable, but it wasn’t my fault.”
Haaland: ” The dog ate my homework.”
Haaland: ” Hold me accountable, but don’t blame me.”
Typical socialist democrat. “It wasn’t me, he did it” always shifting blame to someone else never accepting responsability..Really suprised “Duck and Dodge Deb” didn’t try to blame POTUS Trump
A less “articulate” Kamala…our NM Dem politicians are a disgrace.
“I didn’t know,I trusted him” BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT. She is a lying POS. What about EPSTEIN EPSTEIN EPSTEIN for TRUMP but with deb
“I didn’t know” sounds just like I didn’t have sex with that woman or I will not pardon hunter. BULLSHIT BULLLLLLSHHHIIITTT.
Ditto…Ditto…Ditto
I met a person, a democrat, while campaigning for Gregg Hull who is voting for Gregg Hull..disclosed that he went to high school with Deb Haaland..lots of skeletons in her closet and wished more voters knew more about her past which will play a very important part in the future for New Mexico if she wins. He did not elaborate but I read between the lines..
The exposure she’s had through the media, TV interviews, her campaign ads, newspaper interviews etc. reveals she incompetent..why the democrats can’t see that is beyond my comprehension.
They want incompetent people in because incompetent people are easy to manipulate. Look at Joe Biden.
RMG. Please encourage this person that went to high school with Haaland to divulge the information now! before the election. If true, this info may be critical in helping her NOT get elected. Could be an October surprise?!
Many Dems said if they knew about Hunter’s laptop before 2020 election they wouldn’t have voted for Biden.
An excellent point, referring to Hunter’s laptop mess. Deb’s former classmate does not have to reveal his name, but if he thinks it is info New Mexico voters should consider before voting for a Governor, then he should speak up…..asap!!!
Democrats don’t care. I know of an individual who stated if the devil was running for office against a Republican he would vote for the devil. They have no moral compass!
Deb riding on that plane is MEANINGLESS. what is meaningful is the 2 dui, 2 failed bar exams, 2 divorces and a complete lack of knowledge to be a governor. a life of failure. why elect someone like that ? DEM VOTERS DONT CARE. they just vote democrat every time because they are mental zombies. NM is going nowhere but down under Gov Scarecrow Deb who like the scarecrow in the wizard of oz has no brain. How can someone this lousy get votes ? NM IS HOPELESS
Speak double talk..Wolf liar..
Lookup “Feckless” in dictionary, there will be a picture of Deb Haaland.
Eric you used one of my favorite word for the d cult “Feckless” it fits them no doubt. Clueless, thieves, con artists, liars, un-American, criminal lovers also describe the d cult.
FAILURE!! Halfwit Haaland has failed in every office shes been in so why not put her in the Governors office and let her fail again?!! Because she doesn’t recall what has happened in the past, AND-“I don’t know how Epstein was involved”, let alone what’s happening in her department. “I’ve never heard of Oracle” (but I got a nice fat donation from someone). She would fail the Governors office and blame it on someone else.
They are electing her because of her incompetence. This makes it easy for the legislature to pass the bills they want, and of course she will sign them all. She has no plan, and they know it. The Democratic legislature is wanting this knucklehead to be the next governor because of her inability to debate, strategize, and the mere fact that she is not intelligent makes for an easy four years for the legislature. It’s their perfect plan and they know New Mexico always votes in democrats.
This will be a micro repeat of the Biden administration. Expect open borders in NM.
All I can say is this. If, after MLG, New Mexicans vote in Deb Haaland, when they have a great man like Gregg Hull running against; her, then New Mexico will get what they deserve. And that will be to stay at the bottom of all that matters. Come on New Mexico, vote with your brains and not your cult leaning. New Mexico cannot afford another democrat in the governors office.
How about her running mate who was not chosen by the people. Toulouse-Oliver won the primary but Haaland didn’t want her as a running mate so she forced her out and a select committee put someone chosen by Haaland. I say the lieutenant governor candidate is not legally qualified. That is the communist way.
Magpie was in Alcohol Rehab, our SOS is MIA
As usual, softball questions from our biased local media to our next cardboard standup gov. With all this comotion we arent keeping track of our marxist midget…she has plenty of time to drop more regressive taxes and progressive roadblocks on us.
Hagland is just mimicking Sgt. Schultz. (from the show Hogan’s Hero’s); I see nothing , I know nothing!
This disaster will make the current mental midget seem almost intelligent. Woe unto this state if she does get elected!
Sgt Schultz was acting. Deb isnt. she really doesnt know anything.
We’re a Communist (Democrat) machine state. “Accountability” only applies to Republicans.