Republican candidates split on major NM issues in TV debate

New Mexico’s three Republican gubernatorial candidates squared off Wednesday night in a televised, 30-minute KOAT debate, offering voters a clearer picture of where the GOP primary contenders stand on taxes, education, crime, immigration, and the future of the state fairgrounds as the June 2 primary approaches.

The debate featured Rio Rancho Mayor Gregg Hull, businessman and former Human Services Secretary Duke Rodriguez, and businessman Doug Turner.

While the candidates largely agreed on broad conservative themes such as cutting taxes, supporting ICE detention contracts, and criticizing Democratic Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham’s outgoing administration, the debate also revealed notable differences on policy specifics and governing style.

All three candidates pointed to New Mexico’s crime and education crises as top priorities, though each emphasized different root causes and solutions.

Rodriguez argued crime is the state’s single biggest issue, saying it touches nearly every other policy area.

“When we deal with crime, we talk about fixing poverty, fixing a failing education system, dealing with mental health, addiction,” Rodriguez said. “All those issues collide.”

Hull, meanwhile, said education is the foundational issue.

“If we’re not educating our kids, we are failing them,” Hull said, arguing better schools would strengthen the workforce and reduce long-term crime.

Turner focused heavily on educational outcomes and CYFD failures, noting that nearly half of New Mexico’s third graders cannot read at grade level.

“We have been failing our children in this state for 30 years, and that has to end now,” Turner said.

All three Republicans blasted the recently enacted law banning local governments from contracting with ICE detention facilities.

Turner argued the law harms rural economies and makes little practical sense.

“ICE is going to use facilities somewhere,” Turner said. “They might as well go to our state and promote economic growth in those communities.”

Rodriguez said the law unfairly assumes New Mexico counties cannot run detention facilities humanely.

Hull said shutting down such contracts “sends a message that we’re not willing to hold people accountable.”

Perhaps the strongest consensus of the night came on tax reform, with all three candidates calling for major reductions.

Rodriguez took the most aggressive stance, promising sweeping tax elimination.

“I said eliminate state personal income tax,” Rodriguez declared. “Eliminate New Mexico gross receipts tax on all retail sales.”

Hull similarly endorsed eliminating the state income tax while calling for broader reform of gross receipts and property taxes.

Turner proposed reducing the personal income tax to 3% over time while also pursuing long-term gross receipts tax reform.

The debate’s clearest divide emerged over the future of Expo New Mexico and the state fairgrounds.

Hull strongly backed keeping the fairgrounds in its current Albuquerque location.

“The state fair needs to stay right where it’s at,” Hull said, calling it part of the city’s and state’s identity.

Turner broke with Hull, arguing the site should be redeveloped for more productive uses and the fair moved elsewhere.

“We’re 32,000 housing units short in this state,” Turner said, suggesting the land could be used for housing, a stadium, or other redevelopment.

Rodriguez took a middle-ground approach, saying the decision should be left to the next administration after stakeholder input.

The candidates also offered varying critiques of the state’s universal child care program.

Rodriguez, who recently sued the Lujan Grisham administration over the initiative, reiterated that he supports child care assistance but argued the current rollout is unlawful and unsustainable.

“It has to be a program that is lawful, legal, and sustainable,” Rodriguez said.

Turner said he supports the concept but wants means testing added.

“An extremely wealthy person shouldn’t have the state paying for their child care,” Turner said.

Hull questioned whether the state has the infrastructure and budget capacity to sustain the program long-term.

With early voting beginning May 5, the debate gave Republican voters one of their final major opportunities to compare the three candidates side by side.

Though all three candidates offered similar criticism of Democratic governance, Wednesday’s debate showed meaningful differences in tone, priorities, and policy specifics that could shape the outcome of the increasingly competitive GOP primary.

The winner will advance to face the Democratic nominee in November, along with independent candidate former Las Cruces Mayor Ken Miyagishima.

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28 thoughts on “Republican candidates split on major NM issues in TV debate”

  1. Give credit where credit is due. Duke has been on the radio several times talking about his thoughts and plans. Hull has been invisible and turner has a few ads. I had no idea who Duke was at first, but he gives a good account of himself and EDUCATES the public, which the repub party should be doing daily, but doesnt. Any one of these 3 would be a trillion times better than Sam or Deb. Nm has the blue state blues, last in everything. no tax breaks. vote repub and lets stop this mindless state death spiral.

    1. Has Duke disclosed he’s a transplant from AZ? Court records show he cast ballots in Arizona, where he owns a house and has referred to himself in legal filings as a “resident of Scottsdale,” from 2002 through 2024. He’s heavily into cannabis which is controversial in itself. Doug is having a fundraiser in Mar-a-Lago next week. Should he really be focusing on fundraising from out of state? I don’t want out-of-staters deciding who will be the next Governor of NM. Considering how blue NM is, I doubt it’s a good idea for Doug to align himself with Trump if he were to run in the general election. Hull has been invisible? He has actually traveled throughout the state, talking to voters in cities and small towns, raking in grassroots donations from New Mexicans. He realizes he needs to introduce himself to those who don’t know him as we do in Rio Rancho. Hull is the only candidate who has actual experience in running a government and has been quite successful at it. Every one has ideas but Hull knows how to implement those ideas.

      1. the courts have cleared Duke to run. I understand people have questions about him. My point is he is the only one out actively in the media and fighting the dems.

        1. Duke voted in AZ in 2025. I don’t believe he qualifies to run. That is my opinion. I actually don’t like the way he throws his money around, he is not back financially by NM voters. Nor is Haaland, over 65% of her money is from out of state, most from CA. I’m backing Hull.

        2. That’s because he is a millionare and can afford the media attention. He also gave mulitple times to ActBlue and democrat candidates, but has never given to a republican candidate. He is too fishy for me.

          1. Pamala Maitreya

            Who is a millionaire? Can you verify that he gave to Dems and Act Blue and never to a Repub?

      2. While I hear your concerns on out of state money, that’s what candidates have to do to raise the millions necessary to run a statewide, high profile race. The fact the D’s have already outpaced and out raised NM candidates is enough evidence to see that you need national money to win.

        As far as Trump is concerned, he is effectively the national leader of the Republican party. Regardless of true affiliation or not with Trump, ANY and ALL Republicans will be aligned with Trump- to their benefit or detriment. Best to align with the leader and get some support. It’s a team effort and any candidate who wants to win, must call on all resources to even have a chance, and that is going national

  2. Each of these republican candidates have different strengths and weaknesses. Each could bring different things to the table in NM. I have enjoyed living in Rio Rancho with Greg Hull as mayor and believe he could do a great job. Either way, voting starts May 5 🇺🇸

    1. Duke voted in AZ in 2025. I don’t believe he qualifies to run. That is my opinion. I actually don’t like the way he throws his money around, he is not back financially by NM voters. Nor is Haaland, over 65% of her money is from out of state, most from CA. I’m backing Hull.

      1. I agree. Not one of them is promoting Conservative Values. All are talking Socialist light. NOT one said that we need to enforce the law. Not one said that we need to cooperate with immigration enforcement and quit allowing criminal illegal aliens back into our neighborhoods. Not one talked about school vouchers to our children out of the failed state school system. Not one talked about holding responsible the people criminally responsible for the deaths and injuries caused by CYFD.

      2. Oh… and the Demoncrats are doing better with rampant abortion, transgenderism, marxism and the constant threatening of our fundamental rights.

        I wouldn’t vote Demoncrat if you forced me at gunpoint.

  3. This is why we have the right to vote on the candidates. I am still supporting Duke as I think he has the better ideas and he is a businessman (Successful) and he knows how to get things done. He has been cleared of the mudslinging efforts and is putting his own money where his mouth is, not taking huge amounts from others that will want something in return for their donations. It’s time to start running this state as a business and not a politically controlled state.

  4. Whoever wins is going to have a tough row to hoe as Haaland is the lefts poster child. In order to lose she is really going to have to step in it. The GOP needs to aggressively showcase Haaland’s failings in order to help whoever wins the GOP primary. The focus should be on Haaland failings and not on who is in Trumps camp.

  5. All 3 have already lost…they are all weak, and are playing combover conservatives or rino in pure safety…its almost as if they were hired to be milquetoast….haaland has all the big money to keep them puppets.

  6. tom Merry houlton

    New Mexico doesn’t need a dope dealer -strikingly resembles the riff raff in office now..But I’d still vote 2 to 1 over ANY of the losers of the dembocrap party! Any way about it you 3 need to ensure 1 of you takes office and runs the Loserjan regime out of town!

  7. I live in southern NM and we get very little info on any of the Republicans running. I would like to know how they plan to fix our education systems and how they will change our higher education systems from brain washing our adult children. Basically conservatism is not allowed in our universities. Not sure how state funded schools can do that. NM also needs drug programs, if we can decrease the draw for drugs maybe we can cut the crime. What are the republicans going to do with our fasted growing business, the killing of babies? It is pretty shameful to be in this industry when for the most part NM is a Christian state.

    1. Have to agree. Im currently split between Greg and Duke. Each candidate seems comprable to each other. Absolutely agree on education and abortion, needs to be dealt with ASAP Lord willing. It is genuinely sad that a state with this many Christians is still dealing with the effects of abortion. Kids need to be helped in schools as well.

    2. Very well said. It looks like the NM Republican Party is, once again, happy to live on the scraps given to them by the Democrats. NM is a ~45% Republican State and we can’t find 1 quality conservative to run. That’s sad, but that’s the Republican swamp in NM.

  8. The tax cutting ideas are good. Those caught my attention. All of them seem to support tax reform, but Hull is listening to the wimps who don’t think the GRT can be eliminated. Instead, he wants to call it a sales tax…? No thanks.

    And as a Rio Rancho resident, I’m not a fan of the lawlessness that is now rampant in my once peaceful RR neighborhood. My family is not safer under Hull.

    That leaves Turner and Duke. Duke is a pot peddler, has a flaming liberal attorney, who hates republicans, and donates to Demoncrats and Act Blue.

    It looks like it’s Turner. Sanchez and Herrell are good endorsements.

  9. Not one of these candidates is promoting Conservative Values. All are speaking from the Democrat playbook of Socialism light. NOT one said that we need to enforce the law and keep criminals in prison. Not one said that we need to cooperate with immigration enforcement and quit allowing criminal illegal aliens back into our neighborhoods. Not one talked about school vouchers to our children out of the failed state school system. Not one talked about holding responsible the people criminally responsible for the deaths and injuries caused by CYFD.

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